Comments on: Tolerance and love – A few more thoughts http://www.theonlinerant.com/2007/10/08/tolerance-and-love-a-few-more-thoughts/ Jamie's thoughts, ideas, and struggles Mon, 18 Jan 2010 03:49:59 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Alexander http://www.theonlinerant.com/2007/10/08/tolerance-and-love-a-few-more-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-85 Alexander Tue, 13 Nov 2007 16:15:52 +0000 http://www.theonlinerant.com/2007/10/08/tolerance-and-love-a-few-more-thoughts/#comment-85 Sorry, Jamie, for obviously not having been clear enough: I read your (very nice) post. You had cited (Mat 22:39) who says very clear: we should love (!) our neighbours (not "only" tolerate them). But at the end of your post I wondered: your conclusion in this special point was just a kind of tolerance. Please don't misunderstand: that is (especially for many people - and I've read the discussion about cymatics..........) - very much. But I asked myself if a Christian shouldn't have even higher requirements - and formulate them... or find the way to live this. This is really not meant as criticism (I really appreciate what you write in your post and I think you handled that discussion very well) - it's just a thought.... e.g. about ideals and reality... ?! Sorry, Jamie, for obviously not having been clear enough:

I read your (very nice) post. You had cited (Mat 22:39) who says very clear: we should love (!) our neighbours (not “only” tolerate them). But at the end of your post I wondered: your conclusion in this special point was just a kind of tolerance.
Please don’t misunderstand: that is (especially for many people – and I’ve read the discussion about cymatics……….) – very much.
But I asked myself if a Christian shouldn’t have even higher requirements – and formulate them… or find the way to live this.

This is really not meant as criticism (I really appreciate what you write in your post and I think you handled that discussion very well)
- it’s just a thought…. e.g. about ideals and reality… ?!

]]> By: Jamie Barrows http://www.theonlinerant.com/2007/10/08/tolerance-and-love-a-few-more-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-84 Jamie Barrows Tue, 13 Nov 2007 15:50:12 +0000 http://www.theonlinerant.com/2007/10/08/tolerance-and-love-a-few-more-thoughts/#comment-84 Not sure I understand your question Alexander, but my point was that Christians preaching love and not practicing it, are no better than non-christians preaching tolerance and not practicing it. It's just as hypocritical. Not sure I understand your question Alexander, but my point was that Christians preaching love and not practicing it, are no better than non-christians preaching tolerance and not practicing it. It’s just as hypocritical.

]]> By: Alexander http://www.theonlinerant.com/2007/10/08/tolerance-and-love-a-few-more-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-83 Alexander Tue, 13 Nov 2007 15:39:11 +0000 http://www.theonlinerant.com/2007/10/08/tolerance-and-love-a-few-more-thoughts/#comment-83 That's why I thought about it: Should a Christian ("always" - or at least often...) try to fulfill this ideal of LOVE? Or ist it "normal" that he doesn't? (Then: what is the difference in this point to Non-Christians? Only having other ideals? Preaching of love... and living less tolerance?) (Benign "provocative" greetings ;-) ) That’s why I thought about it:

Should a Christian (“always” – or at least often…) try to fulfill this ideal of LOVE?

Or ist it “normal” that he doesn’t?
(Then: what is the difference in this point to Non-Christians? Only having other ideals? Preaching of love… and living less tolerance?)

(Benign “provocative” greetings ;-) )

]]> By: Jamie Barrows http://www.theonlinerant.com/2007/10/08/tolerance-and-love-a-few-more-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-82 Jamie Barrows Tue, 13 Nov 2007 14:37:51 +0000 http://www.theonlinerant.com/2007/10/08/tolerance-and-love-a-few-more-thoughts/#comment-82 Well, tolerance isn't the same as love. Tolerance does not require you to love or care about anyone. It simply requires you to put up with things and people you don't like. The Bible requires us to go beyond that and actually love and care for people who are our enemies and who hate us. Which is far harder to do than simply tolerating them. Well, tolerance isn’t the same as love. Tolerance does not require you to love or care about anyone. It simply requires you to put up with things and people you don’t like.

The Bible requires us to go beyond that and actually love and care for people who are our enemies and who hate us. Which is far harder to do than simply tolerating them.

]]> By: Alexander http://www.theonlinerant.com/2007/10/08/tolerance-and-love-a-few-more-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-81 Alexander Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:38:17 +0000 http://www.theonlinerant.com/2007/10/08/tolerance-and-love-a-few-more-thoughts/#comment-81 Interesting thoughts about tolerance and love. You write: "We may not preach tolerance, but we do preach love." But your conclusion, the accentuation of love, deduced from Matthew 22: 39, isn't it just tolerance....? (Sophisticated greetings :-) ) Interesting thoughts about tolerance and love.
You write: “We may not preach tolerance, but we do preach love.”
But your conclusion, the accentuation of love, deduced from Matthew 22: 39, isn’t it just tolerance….?

(Sophisticated greetings :-) )

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